EPISODE 19: INTERVIEW WITH BRYAN ALEXANDER
Episode 19: Interview with Bryan Alexander | 31 March 2026
Stephen and Trent interview their colleague, friend, and author of The Worldbuilding Workshop’s foreword, Dr. Bryan Alexander. The trio discusses:
The poly-crisis engulfing higher education, the United States, and the broader world;
How financial stress, declining enrollment, and political pressures have put universities in a “defensive crouch”;
Why universities should encourage graduate students/future faculty to study contemporary pedagogy within their respective domains;
Institutional constraints and their effects on “bottom-up” innovation;
Generative AI as both a threat and a tool;
Preventing devolution into a transactional cycle where instructors use AI to write questions that learners use AI to answer;
Persistent resistance to gaming and playful learning in higher education, especially compared to K-12 environments;
Applying Kaufman and Beghetto’s “4C Model of Creativity” to evaluate individual acts versus societal contributions;
Differences between worldbuilding content versus concepts, including the use of fictional storyworlds as vehicles for deconstructing reality;
The relationship between transmedia storytelling, ethical decision-making, and professional collaboration;
Navigating the tension between metrics and process;
Identifying ways to quantify qualitative data and qualify quantitative data;
Treating critical reflection as an essential component of fostering empathy; and
Worldbuilding as an act of care.
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